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To put it simply: Don't be a smeg head and all is good. :)

levelicon lbeth 2007-01-26 02:20:31
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the staff seems to have been keeping most of their thoughts on sailorsaturn in the staff topic, and i was originally going to post this there... but i decided i would rather have it here where everyone can see it.

i never knew carrie. i never particularly wanted to know carrie. i regarded her as one of the billions of people that i would never know. i was perfectly okay with that. i am still perfectly okay with that.

to clarify a bit because it sounds rather callous: she was busy, she had her priorities and her life, and i can be annoying. why bother her? i wasn't going to add anything to her life, and i already spent too much time online talking to the friends i had.

all i know of her is from the couple-three posts i'd seen her make in the staff topic, randomly stalking her internet stuff, and second hand reports.

not knowing her does not lessen the impact she has had on my life, and the life of everyone here.

if i'm remembering correctly, scot has said that all this started because he wanted a way to organize his images. if he'd had to do the actual organization himself, i don't think he ever would have had the time to code everything for v2 and crescent. if he'd had someone else organizing the images, i really rather doubt it would have been done as well. and most of us are here because of the image galleries. that's how most of us found grep sailormoon * in the first place.

carrie did so much of the work that has allowed scot to create a place for us to come together.

and i wonder if she ever thought about how much it has meant to so many of us. i'm going to anime expo with sailorvenus, sailorjupiter, ferret, and sailorpsychosis. i got to go to a greppie wedding last year. i've stayed at sailorvenus's parents' house. i've spent a weekend at scot and jen's. i've spent a long weekend with and too much money on cellphone bills talking to forbiddenwaters while she tries to convince me i should move out to texas.

i might move to texas, since so many people i know and like are there, and hardly any are here where i live.

and i believe that if carrie hadn't worked as hard as she did here, i never would have been here. would you?

i've seen scot wonder how many relationships, marriages, and children have come about because of this site.

and now i've been lying in bed wondering how much of all that is due to a woman most of us never knew, and never will be able to thank.
levelicon lbeth 2007-01-01 23:00:46
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ferret! you have intented all over my person!

this is blatant disregardes for my undergone disagreement!

i have statements on two persons on how you are deliberately infringing on my opionon. this topic is not very much debatable. you revoke the checks and balances! at best, you are comunist canadian. someone doesn't agree with you all the time. is that a right to be accordenly?

i have given you a sturn warning. you are ilreleivent and, out of all things consitered, you are a poopie head. this is by your own addmition. i will spite all over you!
levelicon br. scot 2007-01-01 20:47:25
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I just wanted everyone to know what James really thinks about us.

It seems strange that he seems so excited that we are re-opened and yet he has such mean things to say about us.

Two-faced people really, really bug me.
levelicon SailorJupiter 2009-02-18 22:34:07
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magus12000BC and Foxfire: This will make things better :)
levelicon SailorNeptune 2007-03-28 12:11:04
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James said:
We all speak, type, think, and above all else beleive that the way we know english is the way we'd like to. If you can't read what someone else is saying because it's not your way, you're simply not trying enough or worse, hold your way as right.

I think you're missing the point.

If you want to have a conversation with someone, the burden is on YOU to make your message clear to them. The burden is NOT on the person who is trying to understand you. If you are not understood and the message is not conveyed, it is, for lack of a better term, your fault.

Think about when you talk with someone face to face and you tell them something and they say "huh?" or "I don't understand." Do you just ignore them or do you stop and try to clarify what you have said? My guess is that you try to clarify. The same is true with the written language.

You have to make an effort to make your message as clear and understandable as possible if you want other people to know what you're saying. It's not about who's right or wrong or whether it's absolutlely 100% gramatically correct. It's about it being intelligle.

And personally, if a person can't make an effort to make what they are trying to say understandable, why would I want to make an effort to understand them? It's all about respect - if a person doesn't respect me and my time then why should I show them any?
levelicon Cherrii 2007-03-28 14:28:47
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I wanted so badly to disregard this line of posts, even though it addresses so many of my pet peeves, but I find that I cannot refrain any longer.

James: With mentally handicapped people, it is understood and generally accepted that the burden of understanding communication is *not* placed on the handicapped person. That burden resides on the person who is trying to understand those people. Mostly what I have been getting from your posts is that you want us to assume that you are mentally handicapped, transferring all burden and blame for miscommunication to us and away from you.

I don't always type or speak 100 percent correctly. Those here who read my (locked) livejournal can tell you that. Nobody is perfect. However, when sending my words out into the general populace, I attempt to make things as objectively correct as possible so that my ideas may be correctly interpreted by others. We have been taught in communication classes that there is a pattern to communication. The person speaking first formulates a thought, and then encodes that message into language that the receiver will understand but that the speaker also understands. The receiver hears the encoded message and processes that set of words into the received thoughts.

Examples of how this might work:

1: I am speaking or writing to my niece, who happens to be age 8. Rather than using words with multiple syllables and multiple meanings, I will choose simpler words that are more on her level, making the message appropriate for a person her age.

2: I am speaking or writing to my college professor, who is likely in their mid-50s or later and has been part of the higher educational system for 20 or 30 years. Am I going to choose the same simple words that I did for my niece? No, I will probably choose those words with multiple syllables and varied meanings, knowing that my professor's life experience and education will assist them in understanding what I have to say.

However, when turning in an assignment to that professor, I will make the same effort to ensure he or she can clearly understand the points I have to make as I would in speaking with my niece or with anyone else with whom I may communicate. You see, the burden of understanding lies with me as the sender of the message.

If I am placed in a situation in which I must speak with someone who I know is not a native English-speaker, I am going to place that much more effort into speaking correctly, in a formally prescribed manner, because I know that non-native English-speakers have very formal language training and likely won't understand colloquialisms or slang. I would probably avoid my very common southern bastardization "y'all" and instead say "you all" or "you guys" or simply "you", all of which would be appropriate and correct.

"You're statement counterdicts the 'understanding' arguments others make."

Is that supposed to say "Your statement contradicts the 'understanding' arguments others have been making," because the way *your* statement is written, you are not placing ownership of the statement with OBSailorStar; you are saying that she *is* the statement.

And I think the point she was trying to make with what she said (which I can understand because it was clearly written in a common form of communication) is that basically people have been telling you for years that you can't write a coherent statement to save your life and make no effort to learn to do so. Why is it then our burden to understand you when it is so much better for my personal standard of living to simply ignore you? Just because you've been doing it for years doesn't make it correct and doesn't make it intelligible.

Maybe instead of starting a lot of drama and making many brains hurt from trying to read and comprehend your posts, you could attempt to type your posts in a manner we could all understand. The burden is strictly on you to make yourself as clearly understood as possible.
levelicon SailorMercury 2007-01-12 21:14:17
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levelicon ferret 2007-01-19 22:42:05
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Yeppers, I know people who have their Sailormoon stuff up on their wall and the such AND have NO problem advertising their obsession purportedly among their friends. I'm all for being passionate about a things- HOWEVER sometimes it can be a little disturbing in this day age and country. (Ay caramba!)
levelicon ChibiMoon 2007-07-03 16:36:14
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Happy Birthday Beth! *_*
From now on, every is turning 18. Cause if my friends dont get older, i must not be either >.>

The only reason i remember birthdays is because of your birthday joshie.
Your's 7/11 like the store.
Ami is 1/11 and
Minako is 8/11.

>.> more people should be born on the 11th to help me remember.
levelicon Jen 2007-03-19 21:16:16
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ciarahall1 - I don't find that amusing at all.

I've actually worked at an AIDS Resource Center, helping people who have HIV and AIDS. People who are HIV+ and people who have AIDS are humans and deserve dignity and respect, not rude uncaring people who have nothing better to do than make fun of them.

Are you willing to tell a woman who got AIDS from her husband that she should stop "screwin'"? What about the person who gets raped and infected? Would they have been saved from a horrible disease by a box of rubbers? They don't deserve to have jokes made at their expense. Saying the cure for AIDS is "carbon dioxide" is disgusting. Do you honestly not see that you are advocating the death of people simply because they are infected with a horrendous disease? Are you willing to tell the children who've lost parents to the disease that the "cure" for AIDS is a "5 cent pamphlet"?

Your attitude is unconscionable. Do yourself a favor and learn something about AIDS and the people it affects. Stop spreading ignorance.
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